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DESJARLAIS

Post by NoreenB » Wed Sep 24, 2008 2:13 pm

I am doing some research on fathers side of the family but have run into some brick walls. I am having difficulty finding correct names for Suzanne's and Amable Desjarlais' siblings especially Elaine Helene (a) Desjarlais as this is my dad's grandmother. i have ran into 2 ladies same name born same year to 2 different men ( of the same family ). Curious as to where Suzanne was born and when, i know that amable was born 1/16 1860. Even on this site lineage ends with Suzanne. I am just looking for some answers anything even if it has not been asked in the message. lost and confused.

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Amable DESJARLAIS 1860

Post by gnstill » Wed Sep 24, 2008 9:52 pm

Welcome to the Forum Noreen!

I have an Amable DESJARLAIS born Jan 16, 1860; married Sep 23, 1879 at St Eustache, MB to Suzanne b-1855, daughter of Marie FIDLER & Charles PELLETIER JR b-c1822 (There were about 12 children in this PELLETIER family)
Amable & Suzanne had about 9 children (from MB Vital Stats and Scrips), including a Helene who was born in July of 1880 at Fort Ellice. I am reviewing my information and will have more for you later.

Who did Helene (your Dad's grandmother) marry?

Census 1901 at Ferndale, SK (Assiniboia East) lists a Susan (age 42) & Amable DESJARLAIS (age 40), both born in MB, with children (Ellen, Louis, Joseph and Laura). I wonder if this is the same Amable?

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Re: suzanne desjarlais aka mary jane

Post by Kohkum » Mon Feb 14, 2011 6:01 pm

NoreenB wrote:I am doing some research on fathers side of the family but have run into some brick walls. I am having difficulty finding correct names for Suzanne's and Amable Desjarlais' siblings especially Elaine Helene (a) Desjarlais as this is my dad's grandmother. i have ran into 2 ladies same name born same year to 2 different men ( of the same family ). Curious as to where Suzanne was born and when, i know that amable was born 1/16 1860. Even on this site lineage ends with Suzanne. I am just looking for some answers anything even if it has not been asked in the message. lost and confused.

Hi There - Elaine Helene Desjarlais, is my great grandmother - she married Jean Baptiste Desjarlais and they lived in MB (she was born in Saanichton) they later moved to Saskatoon.
They had 10 childred and foster children:
Alice, Victoria, William, Suzanne, Laura Clara (my grandmother) Rosalie Marie, Margaret, Lillian, Edward (Freeman) and Joe.

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Re: suzanne desjarlais aka mary jane

Post by gnstill » Wed Feb 16, 2011 4:51 am

In order to determine more about Elaine Helene DESJARLAIS and her family, we need a lot more information.

So far I have a Helene DESJARLAIS who has been variously recorded as Helene, Ellen and Elaine. She was born either in July of 1880 or on Dec 25, 1881, most likely in the area of St Francois Xavier, Manitoba. She was the daughter of Suzanne PELLETIER & Amable DESJARLAIS b-1860. She had numerous siblings, most of which seem to have died in infancy.

You indicate that Elaine Helene DESJARLAIS was born in Saanichton. The only Saanichton I know of is in British Columbia, so that information seems to conflict with what I have.
You say she married Jean Baptiste DESJARLAIS, suggesting she may have married a cousin or a relative with the same last name. Can you offer more information? Birth dates and locations would help, also who were your grandparents? Without more clues it is almost impossible to follow up on this.

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Re: suzanne desjarlais aka mary jane

Post by gnstill » Wed Feb 16, 2011 5:10 am

I forgot to mention Elaine Helene DESJARLAIS' sister, Marie DESJARLAIS, born about 1878 in St Eustache, Manitoba. Marie married at Fort Ellis in 1895 to Urbain DELORME who lived for a time in the Qu'Appelle River area of Saskatchewan. Urbain b-1875 was a son of Charlotte GERVAIS & Norbert DELORME.I do have more info about these families.
Do any of those names ring any bells?
Even if you could provide names and birth dates of known aunts, uncles, cousins, etc, it would provide something to go on.

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Re: suzanne desjarlais aka mary jane

Post by Kohkum » Thu Feb 17, 2011 8:48 pm

[quote="gnstill"]In order to determine more about Elaine Helene DESJARLAIS and her family, we need a lot more information.

So far I have a Helene DESJARLAIS who has been variously recorded as Helene, Ellen and Elaine. She was born either in July of 1880 or on Dec 25, 1881, most likely in the area of St Francois Xavier, Manitoba. She was the daughter of Suzanne PELLETIER & Amable DESJARLAIS b-1860. She had numerous siblings, most of which seem to have died in infancy.

You indicate that Elaine Helene DESJARLAIS was born in Saanichton. The only Saanichton I know of is in British Columbia, so that information seems to conflict with what I have.
You say she married Jean Baptiste DESJARLAIS, suggesting she may have married a cousin or a relative with the same last name. Can you offer more information? Birth dates and locations would help, also who were your grandparents? Without more clues it is almost impossible to follow up on this.[/quote

Yes Elaine Helena Desjarlais married a cousin, she was born Dec 25 1881 (to the best of my knowledge) and Died Feb 2, 1977 in Saanichton, BC while staying with one of her grandsons.]
Her father was Amabable Desjarlais,(father Jean Baptiste Desjarlais 1832 , mother Josephte Fleury 1839) born bet Jan 16, 1860 and Suzanne Pelletier (father Charles Pelletier 1819, Mother Marie Fidler 1831) in 1858 in Manitoba. They were married Sept 22, 1879 in St Eustache, Man . Their children were: Antoine m. Adeline Pritchard: Laura 1878 m. Paul Delorme: Marie b. July 1880 m Fred Belhumeur; Suzanne b 02 03 1880-81, died at infancy ; Eugene b 10 22 1883 m to a Fleury; Jean Amable b 02 27 1886; no name baby 04 12 1887 died at infancy; Joseph b 04 29 1888 m Adeline Pelletier; Joseph Felix b 02 28 1890 d 03 25 1891, twins Lion and Dionne b 03 02 1892 d 04 17 1892, Lauria b 1893; Mary b 1894 n a Delorme

I have over 700 entries in my family tree dating back so far into the early 1600. (an this is only on my mother's mother's side)

My grandmother was Laura Clara Desjarlais b 11 25 1908 in St Lazare, Man m Joseph Xavier Lizotte b 1896 in Ste Marthe, Saskatchewan on Apr 13, 1932 Their children are: Frank, George, Lucy, Mary, Olive, William, (twins Merle Rosalie and Pearl Yvonne (this was my mother b 02 23 1940 d 11 14 1995 in Saskatoon- she was born on the farm in Welby, Sask))

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Re: suzanne desjarlais aka mary jane

Post by Kohkum » Thu Feb 17, 2011 9:11 pm

gnstill wrote:I forgot to mention Elaine Helene DESJARLAIS' sister, Marie DESJARLAIS, born about 1878 in St Eustache, Manitoba. Marie married at Fort Ellis in 1895 to Urbain DELORME who lived for a time in the Qu'Appelle River area of Saskatchewan. Urbain b-1875 was a son of Charlotte GERVAIS & Norbert DELORME.I do have more info about these families.
Do any of those names ring any bells?
Even if you could provide names and birth dates of known aunts, uncles, cousins, etc, it would provide something to go on.
I do have Elaine Helene sister being Marie , b 07 1880, but I have her married to Fred Belhumeur, I could be wrong about this. I am still researching this. If you need more, contact me again and can give you more info on what I have. Maybe we can fill in the gaps together.

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Re: suzanne desjarlais aka mary jane

Post by gnstill » Fri Feb 18, 2011 4:21 pm

Thanks for that extra info Kohkum

We seem to be in agreement now regarding everything from your grandmother Laura Clara DESJARLAIS b-1908; her mother Elaine Helene DESJARLAIS b-1881; her father, Amable DESJARLAIS b-1860. I also have a long line of DESJARLAIS ancestors in my files prior to Amable.

The only problem I have is with Helene marrying Jean Baptiste DESJARLAIS who you say was her cousin. I cannot find anyone in my files to match that union. Do you have more information on his origins? Where did you get that information?

I also have info that seems to comply with your LIZOTTE ancestors. Am I correct in saying your grandfather, Joseph Xavier LIZOTTE b-1896, was the son of Eliza/Elise PRIMEAU & Joseph LIZOTTE b-1859?

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Re: suzanne desjarlais aka mary jane

Post by Kohkum » Fri Feb 18, 2011 6:47 pm

gnstill wrote:Thanks for that extra info Kohkum

We seem to be in agreement now regarding everything from your grandmother Laura Clara DESJARLAIS b-1908; her mother Elaine Helene DESJARLAIS b-1881; her father, Amable DESJARLAIS b-1860. I also have a long line of DESJARLAIS ancestors in my files prior to Amable.

The only problem I have is with Helene marrying Jean Baptiste DESJARLAIS who you say was her cousin. I cannot find anyone in my files to match that union. Do you have more information on his origins? Where did you get that information?

I also have info that seems to comply with your LIZOTTE ancestors. Am I correct in saying your grandfather, Joseph Xavier LIZOTTE b-1896, was the son of Eliza/Elise PRIMEAU & Joseph LIZOTTE b-1859?
Okay, here we go .... Elaine Helena Desjarlais b 1881; her father, Amable Desjarlais b 1860; his father Jean Baptiste Desjarlas 1832 ; his father Francois (Minie) Desjarlais is the same person as

Elaine Helena husband - Jean Baptiste Desjarlais b 1875, his father Alexandre Minie Desjarlais b 1845; his father Francoise Minie Desjarlais m Marie Machitokokwe (Maskegonne) . So Jean Baptiste Desjarlais b 1832 and Alexandre Minie Desjarlais b 1845 were brothers.

My source for this info comes from La Societe historique de Saint-Boniface MB

As for my grandfather I am looking for more info with this line. I know he was b 1896 (not sure if the US or not. He served in both WW1 and WW2. I am trying to get his military records.

I know he had siblings which I believe were: Jean Lizotte m Julie Mercredi, Jeannie Lizotte m Joe Liberty (in San Clara, MB) , Mary Lizotte m --- McRae, Elvina Engela Lizotte m Togo Enge c: 1) Viola m ---- 2) Adele m. ---- Gow 3)Mabel m. ---- Stewart 4) Bill 5) Claudette m. ---- Gow 6) Anne m. C ----- Chambers -Authur Lizotte; Frank Lizotte which had a son by the name of Joe, Xavier Henery Lizotte with children: (Evelyn, Wilfred, Edwin, Lorette) ; Fred Lizotte,; Marcel Lizotte; Virginia Lizotte m ---- Laliberte; and Alexander Lizotte with children (Donald Joseph, Ronald Alexander, Brenda Ann, Marion Joyce, and Mary Jane) This info was gotten off a copy of the Last Will and Testiment of Alfred Lizotte. (I'm trying to get the funeral records ) These were listed as surviving heirs. Not much for me to go on yet.

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Re: suzanne desjarlais aka mary jane

Post by gnstill » Sat Feb 19, 2011 8:09 am

I have Amable DESJARLAIS born 1860, son of Josephte FLEURY & Jean Baptiste DESJARLAIS (born around 1830), son of Marie BOTTINEAU & Francois Xavier DESJARLAIS (born around 1795). However, I don’t seem to have Alexander Minie DESJARLAIS as Amable’s brother. Instead, I have a brother named Alexander born 1851 who married Caroline SAYER. Can you tell me more about Alexander Minie DESJARLAIS; who did he marry? I cannot find him anywhere.

To avoid confusion I have started a new topic LIZOTTE, to discuss that family separately.

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Re: DESJARLAIS

Post by gnstill » Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:32 pm

Kohkum wrote:I think your Alexandre Desjarlais and my Alexandre "Minie" (which may mean Jr) Desjarlais are the same> I have him b 1845/1851 d 02 02 1905 Posen, MB (father- Francois "Minie" Desjarlais son of Francois Desjarlais and Madeline Roy, mother: Marie Machitikokwe/Maskegonne) m: Caroline Sayer b 1846/1852(father George Sayer b 1805 mother Marie Catherine Caplette b 1805) c1: Jean Baptiste Desjarlais b 06 19 1875 d 07 09 1941 m Elaine Helena Desjarlais b 12 25 1881 d 02 02 1977 ) these are my great grandmother & great grandfather on g.grandfather's side . c2:Fred Desjarlais, c3: George Desjarlais, c4: Mary Jane Desjarlais c5: Rose Desjarlais, c6: Elizabeth Desjarlais

now on my g.grandmother's side there is: father Amable Desjarlais b 01 16 1860 (father Jean Baptiste Desjarlais b 1932 son of Francois Minie Desjarlais and Marie Machtikokwe Moskegonne , mother Josephte Fleury b 08 09 1836 d 1936 daughter of Louis Fleury and Josephe Gros Venture McDonad, married 07 06 1857 in SFX, Mg (St.Francois Xavier, Mb))m. Susanne Pelletier b 1858 married 09 22 1879 at St. Eustache, MB (father Charles Pelletier b 1819 d 08 08 1861 mother Marie Fidler who was daughter to George Fidler b 11 09 1800 and Nancy Black b 1806). Amable and Susanne children: c1 Antoine Desjarlais b 03 02 1870 m Adeline Pritchard b 11 01 1877 c1 Jean Baptise 03 31 1892, c2 Peter Desjarlais b 1895 m Marie Fisher , c3 Philip b 04 21 1895, c4 Suzanne Desjarlais b 02 03 1881, c5 Elaine Helena Desjarlais b 12 25 1881 m Jean Baptiste Desjarlais 06 19 1875 son of Alexandre Minie Desjarlais b 1845 and mother Caroline Sayer (the same on as the one above) c6 Eugene Desjarlais b 10 22 1883 also married a Fleury woman , c7 Jean Amable Desjarlais 02 27 1886 , c8 a no name baby died just after birth in 1887, c9 Joseph Desjarlais b 04 29 1888 m Adeline Pelleiter, c10 Joseph Felix Desjarlais b 02 28 1890 d 03 25 1891, c11/12 twins Dionne & Lion b 03 02 1892 died 1 1/2mo later, c13 Lauria b 1893, c14 Mary Desjarlais b 1894 m a Delorme, c15 Bill Desjarlais b 1895 m Mary Pritchard

Now, how are you connected to this line?

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Re: DESJARLAIS

Post by gnstill » Sat Feb 19, 2011 6:22 pm

My connections are somewhat indirect, through the FIDLER and SAYER families who both have links to the DESJARLAIS ancestry by way of side branches.

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Re: DESJARLAIS

Post by Kohkum » Sat Feb 19, 2011 7:12 pm

gnstill wrote:My connections are somewhat indirect, through the FIDLER and SAYER families who both have links to the DESJARLAIS ancestry by way of side branches.
If you have any more info on the Lizotte side it would be appreciated -

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Re: DESJARLAIS

Post by gnstill » Sat Feb 19, 2011 9:24 pm

I am working on the LIZOTTE families right now, will post more when I get my facts straight.

Please do me a favour. When discussing LIZOTTE info, do it under the Topic LIZOTTE.
Only post under this topic when discussing DESJARLAIS ancestry.

It helps to avoid confusion for everyone.

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Re: DESJARLAIS

Post by Lesleyhart » Thu Jan 26, 2012 8:12 pm

Hi. I don't know if this would be of any interest but my great grandmother was e
Izabeth Mousseau born mar 15' 1870 her parents were basil Mousseau born in fair ford,Dauphin and Catherine Anderson born Mar 1832 in st Andrews. Basils parents
were Francois Desjarlais born in 1811 in Sandy Bay, West Lake. Mb. And basil Marie Mousseau, Francoise's parents were Albert Desjarlais born 1790 in St.Antoine, rivière-du-Loup Quebec and Cicelle ( Cecile) Dejerlais Arcouet born 1750 in Assumption, Sandwich, Essex, Ontario. Lesley

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